Here’s a link for a great interview with Chris Bostock (The X-Certs, The Stingrays, Joboxers)

https://www.buzzsprout.com/158544/1155065-episode-25-chris-bostock-joboxers-subway-sect-spiritual-cowboys-style-council?fbclid=IwAR3th6Wuy8qxFqsE8IxhG0-LzyfJlKGr_LrKdKm_J6CTvmEJ9D8TvOj6-TI